huge files being exported in premiere pro & VDub

[sabrina-il.livejournal.com]

So I recently moved to Premiere (my WMM died so I'm taking the big leap) and I have a question. I make a vid, export it, and it comes out HUGE. I mean 30 seconds is about 250MG. Most frustrating since you can't really upload that kind of thing online.

I know this must sound like an obvious one but I've looked around and (like many very simple Premiere issues) there's no answer I've been able to find. Is there a setting I'm missing? Does it take another program?

Also, I use VDub to cut my clips (since Premiere doesn't play with my torrent-ed .avi files) and they all come out HUGE as well. I mean I cut like 10 seconds from a scene and the file is, once again, 250MG. I don't mind it that much cos I got some space and it's taught me to watch twice cut once but I was wondering if perhaps that too is fixable. I usually mark the clip I want and do File->Save As AVI.

Thank you, any help mucly appriciated!!

Comments

[boxer-ferret.livejournal.com]

Don't know about Premiere, but in Vdub you should select "direct stream copy" for video as well as audio and it will just cut the clip without re-encoding. It should save really fast that way.

[chellziez.livejournal.com]

Are you exporting it as a .avi file in Premiere? Because I know if you change the setting to Windows Media Video it will be exported as a reasonable sized file (Under 40MB).

I always do export it as an .avi file in Premiere though (it can be anywhere from 750MB to 1GB) and then convert it into a smaller file using Canopus Pro Coder (It isn't free though). I duno why, I think it just makes the quality a tad better.

Anyway, that's just what i do, if the exporting in WMV in Premiere is fine for you then I say, go right ahead! No point needing to screw around with that one extra program.

Hope this helps!

[sabrina-il.livejournal.com]

I do export it as .avi in Premiere (I don't know which Premiere it is, it's from 2003) but it seems I have no option other than AVI. There's also Quicktime, WAV, JPG, and things like GIF and Compuserve. No WMV :(
Unless I'm looking in the wrong place? When I got o file->export->movie I choose settings and go to video.

[melinafandom.livejournal.com]

For clipping in Vdub, you might try following astolat's instructions -- "Using VirtualDub to get clips out of a downloaded or ripped file that can be used in Premiere."

http://astolat.livejournal.com/51221.html

(You do not want to use "direct stream copy" of torrented files in vdub. Those will not be usable in Premiere.)

As far as exporting from Premiere, one option is to use one of the many compression codecs built in. Another is to follow the second part of astolat's instructions, "Using VirtualDub to encode a vid for online distribution."

You can find tons of other guides and helpful information here:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/index.html

[sabrina-il.livejournal.com]

Those are some EXCELLENT intructions in that post you linked to. Unfortunately, just my luck, they don't seem to work. I downloaded amvapp as the post suggested, but the very next step is an issue. It says to open VDub and go to "streams" but... I have no streams in my VDub :(

[melinafandom.livejournal.com]

Uh -- first, those instructions *do* work if you follow them. Second, if it's Vdub, you *do* have a menu choice that says "streams." If you mean that it's empty, that might mean you have no sound, which as the instructions say, is fine since you don't need the source's sound for vidding.

Honestly, I think you might benefit from slowing down a moment, and working with the instructions and the guides one step at a time, slowly and carefully. Don't leap to the conclusion that something doesn't work the second you run into a snag. I've found that when instructions don't work, 9 out of 10 times it's because I've made a mistake somewhere along the line.

[sabrina-il.livejournal.com]

I meant to say don't work FOR ME, not in general, must be the late hour cos my brain feels like it's made of cotton.

I meant I have to "streams" label on my VDub. And indeed the problem is that the intructions are for vDubMOD LOL I downloaded that and everything started making sense. I'm going to bed now and I'll continue the quest to make my vid smaller in the morning but THANK YOU SO MUCH for your help! You've really helped me A LOT and probably most of my problems right now are prom being completely sleep deprived.

[chellziez.livejournal.com]

Sorry it took me so long to reply, my Adobe Premiere was screwing up.


Anyway, when you click on file->export, if you scroll all the way down there should be an option called Adobe Media Encoder. click on that, and you should be able to export as an mpeg or WMV file from there.

[petitevanou.livejournal.com]

I don't know how much I can help, I have just started using premiere pro as well. But well, I am just going to tell you what I do.

First most avi files that you dload, will be xvid or dvix and premiere does not like these so I reencode as wmv the episodes I will use before importing them to premiere . For that I use Riverpast video cleaner ( http://www.riverpast.com/en/prod/videocleaner/) I could email it to you if you want . your newly encoded file will only be a little bigger that the avi file, but not much more.

when I export , I choose microsoft avi and no compression, so first I will end up with a very big file ( 2 to 6 gigs) depending on the frame size. Then I reencode that file using either window media encoder, or virtual dub, one way or the other, your file will be pretty small. 10 to 50 MB for around 5 minutes, depending on frame size and quality. If you need the river past encoder, let me know. Hope that helped a little. I have noticed too that there is nothing out there for premiere or very little !
Of course I Am no expert and there could be a much better way to to all this, which I 'd love to know if there is :D

[sabrina-il.livejournal.com]

I just saved my vid from Premiere, no compression, it came out round 6GB. I tried compressing it in Vdub, streaming Audio+Video, it still comes out 6GB. :( Any advice you could give me?

[melinafandom.livejournal.com]

See above re astolat's instructions -- the "direct stream copy" option in Vdub does *nothing* to compress your video -- that's why you are ending up with files of the same size. It's useful if you need to clip parts of a file without losing quality, but that's it. You need to use "full processing" mode.

(IMO, converting to .wmv is a bad choice. Use a .dv codec, like the Panasonic one, instead.)

[petitevanou.livejournal.com]

try following this tutorial :)
http://www.videohelp.com/avi2divx.htm