Adobe Premiere horking on rendering a vid -- help!

[tanacawyr.livejournal.com]

Greetings and salutations -- hope someone can help me, here. I'm at my wit's end. I'm in mid-vid right now, and Premiere "encounters a problem" and hangs every time it tries to render the entire thing. It's been occasionally spotty in the past, but now it simply cannot get to the end of the vid, and I'm ready to throw my computer out the window.

Does anyone know of a way for me to work around this that doesn't involve using other vidding software? Is there a way for me to render it piecemeal and then use VirtualDub or something like that to stitch the bits together? Will this cause a bobble or hiccup in the music or video?

I'm really at my wit's end. ANY help or suggestions that don't involve me having to stop using Premiere would be greatly appreciated.

Comments

[bogosort.livejournal.com]

If you can render it piecemeal, you can use Virtualdub to stich the rendered AVI files all together. I'm not at my desktop with Virtualdub on it, but there should be like an Open and add video file, and it'll just take the video on at the end of the sequence. This assuming that they are the same resolution and the like.

[absolutedestiny.livejournal.com]

Yes, if you are exporting an avi file you can export your project in small sections and "append" these sections from the file menu in Virtualdub. If you name them File.00.avi, File.01.avi then it will append them automatically.

It is possible, however, that there is one point in your video that Premiere is having trouble with - possibly and effect or transition or transparency. Exporting in sections will highlight this for you and you can fix it when you get to it.

There is also the potential problem of size issues if you are exporting a large lossless file - namely if using Win98 and/or a FAT32 file system which both have limitations on maximum file size.

The simple answer to all these problems is, as you guessed, sectional exporting.

There are other solutions but those are for when this doesn't work :)

[tanacawyr.livejournal.com]

Yes, if you are exporting an avi file you can export your project in small sections and "append" these sections from the file menu in Virtualdub. If you name them File.00.avi, File.01.avi then it will append them automatically.

LOVELY. Thank you!

I've completed three sections of the vid -- the intro, a bit of the middle, and the end. When I'd only completely intro and end, it exported fine. Now that I've filled in some of the middle, it's barfing on export at the end, in a section it used to export without complaint.

Is there anything special I should be doing to avoid laying a codec down on it for a second time when using VirtualDub? I should have been more complete in my description -- it's horking on export, not in the rendering, I'm putting a Divx 5.1.1 codec on it, and it never used to barf at that point before.

I'm concerned that if I export with a 5.1.1. codec, then re-save it in VDub, it'll get a codec on it twice.

[tanacawyr.livejournal.com]

Ignore me, I'm a dork -- I think "direct stream copy" is what I'm looking for to avoid putting 5.1.1 on twice.

[absolutedestiny.livejournal.com]

Yeah, direct stream copy is what you need.

The other option is to export losslessly (either uncompressed or with a lossless codec like HuffYUV) and then compress to Divx in virtualdub. The lossless file will be very large but there are some benefits - it is good for archiving and you can do 2-pass encoding of the divx file to get better quality.

[tanacawyr.livejournal.com]

It seems to have worked, which is great -- no audio/video hiccup that I can see, either. *wipes brow* I really didn't want ot abandon this vid, either. It's been a challenge, and it's turning out nicely, so I'm happy to be able to get on with it. Thanks!

[absolutedestiny.livejournal.com]

If you have to do this again and you do get audio hiccups, you can export the entire audio from premiere as a wav and then inmport it into virtualdub once you have appended the sections.

This will allow you to compress the audio in virtualdub and interleave it with the full appended file.

[mpoetess.livejournal.com]

What they said. But also, just because it hangs in rendering, doesn't mean it will hang in exporting. (assuming you're not using them interchangeably)

One of mine continually crashed at a certain point in the timeline when I was doing 'render timeline' to view the whole vid in Premiere (I know what the effects were that were doing it, but removing those effects wasn't an option), but exported to avi just fine, no hiccups.

So the only issue became "How do I render the vid enough to see my effects and such in the non-problem area" and the solution to that was "Move the work area to before the problem section. Render. Move the work area to after the problem section. Render. Move the work area to cover the whole timeline. Export."

[tanacawyr.livejournal.com]

Oops, yes -- I should have said "exporting." And it's hanging at a part where it used to sail on past no problem. Wah.

[mpoetess.livejournal.com]

Damn - yeah, my solution's pretty useless there. (And I'd have cried many tears if it had happened during export with mine, since the thing that was making it hang was something that I wasn't willing to remove from the vid.)

Have you tried reinstalling Premiere? It's the buggiest program on the planet to start with; sometimes kicking it back to defaults can solve some problems.

[tanacawyr.livejournal.com]

Reinstalling Premiere might be the way to go in the future -- I'm glad I keep my program and data disks separate, on the advice of versaphile, who set my computer up for me. For the moment, I seem to be able to export in bits and pieces and then hope the stitching-up process doesn't leave any hiccups in the video or music. *sigh*

[mpoetess.livejournal.com]

Oh - thought - you could try exporting the whole video and whole audio, separately from each other, if you do have problems with synhing up the segmented version in VDub. If Premiere happens to be crashing on the processing required to do both at once, and will export them separately, you could export audio as wav, video as avi, and throw them back together in VDub.

[mpoetess.livejournal.com]

isynhing

or synching, even

[forked.livejournal.com]

Something else you might try, go through and render smaller sections at a time- so that in the end, the whole thing has a green bar above it. THEN try to export the whole thing. That's worked for me when premiere has been balky.

After each render- I always save- just in case you hit a point that's balky and just won't render. That happened to me once, and I went in and replaced some footage in that section and could then get the whole thing to render and export.

[luminosity]

If you're not to the point of tossing the entire computer across the room, try this: Extend your work area out about 15 seconds past the end of the vid into the blank space. Save. Export. See if you can "fool" Premiere.

Another thing you might try is to go to your Adobe/Premiere directory and delete your pref file. When you reopen Premiere, you'll have to redo your prefs, but that's no big deal.

I hope something helps!