Missing codec question

[black-hound.livejournal.com]

Perhaps a clearer head than mine (which wouldn't be hard at the moment) can figure this out.

I had to reinstall Premiere 6.0. Added a bunch of new codecs after the install. Some new. Some not. Premiere is seeing only some of them. VDub sees all of them, and Premiere's ancient sister, 4.2, sees all of them.

There is one video codec missing in Premiere 6.0: Microsoft MPEG4 V3, but the glaring ommissions are the audio codecs. Nothing but the defaults. I added in DivX Audio, and an MPEG3 codec.

VDub sees them. Premiere 4.2 sees them. Is there any reason why Premiere 6.0 can't see them?

Comments

[absolutedestiny.livejournal.com]

Yeah, Premeire 6 doesnt use the windows ACM (audio codec manager) for audio compression, which means that you don't get the same list that you see in virtualdub.

The best thing to do is to export the audio seperately as wav and then import it into virtualdub, with your avi and encode the audio there.

I also recommend you exprort the video losslessly from premiere (using either uncompressed rgb, huffyuv or your default hardware codec) and compress for web distribution in virtualdub if you can because premiere's distribution codec handling is weak at best. Divx encodes done in premiere are always sub-standard.

In short - dont trust premiere with encoding things, simply export in as high a quality as you can and then compress everything down in virtualdub :)

[black-hound.livejournal.com]

Thanks so very much! Slapping this right into my memories.

[black-hound.livejournal.com]

I just went over to Premiere 6.0 to try this, and the stinker doesn't give me the option of uncompressed rgb or huffyuv. The only non-compression available is 'none'. At least there's that. And yet, those options are all available in the older version of Premiere 4.2.

I'm not brimming over with enthusiasm at the 6.0 incarnation of Premiere. And since I run Win2K, the 7.0 plus versions aren't an option.

[absolutedestiny.livejournal.com]

"none" is uncompressed rgb. Huffyuv will require an install, you can get it from www.doom9.org

6.0 is fine - sure it's very different from 4.2 but it is a decent editor and I'd used it for a long time now.

[black-hound.livejournal.com]

Thanks, once again. Obviously this is all new turf for me. I made my first vid pretty much by guesswork (in 4.2), and that's not always the best plan. *smirk*

I have the Huffyuv. It shows in everything except 6.0. I may have to rip out 6.0 and re-install. Something isn't right. I've applied all the patches but I'm still locking up on exports. I know this version was a mite buggy, from what I've read on the web, so I'm not completely surprised.

I actually like 4.2. Small, quick, and it didn't lock. *g* I'm finding that 6.0 is really much slower on the rendering. But I'm determined to make it work. *glares in the direction of 6.0*

Thanks again. You help is greatly appreciated.

[absolutedestiny.livejournal.com]

One thing that *might* be puzzling you in the export options is the type of export.

Premiere has a number of export types including Quicktime, Microsoft DV and Video for Windows.

You will need to select Video for Windows in order to select huffyuv as a codec.

This appears in both the Project settings and the Export settings which look identical but are different and can be set to different things if you want. The project settings govern how things are encoded on the timeline when editing and the export ones govern the export encoder settings.

[black-hound.livejournal.com]

I checked. And yes, I am learning about the different types of export. It wasn't there under Video for Windows. I was having a lot of trouble with 6.0 horking on export and locking up my machine, so I just uninstalled the bugger and reinstalled it. Now it sees the Huffy codec. So that's good.

I have also experimented with the uncompressed export and compressing in VDub. Yes! *nods enthusiastically* And I found a good tutorial on how to do the multipass compression complete with bitrate calculation. So things are looking up. *grins*